"I wish we had that data. But Hugh, I don't think you're hearing me. It's not just about that."Collins then attempted to backtrack on his admission that the push to mandate masks in schools is not based on data. He tried to argue that school districts have already shut down because of COVID-19 cases. But Hewitt was not convinced. He argued that those school districts overreacted to their COVID-19 cases. He believes his assessment of the situation is supported by Collins' own admission that there is no data showing that children are more likely to suffer from severe COVID-19 infections if they did not wear masks. "You tell me, they closed because of the number of positive tests. But was there real harm?" asked Hewitt. "Because if it's the flu or a common cold in children, that was a bad decision and a panicky one." Hewitt continued by saying that he believes public health officials and institutions have fearmongered about COVID-19 outbreaks among children without any evidence of actual outbreaks. He continued by pressing Collins further. He accused the director of the NIH of not having any data proving that children have a greater risk of being infected with COVID-19. Hewitt pointed out that many young children are vulnerable to developing speech problems if they are unable to see people's full faces. He believes this is a much bigger threat to children than COVID-19. To these accusations, all Collins could argue is that the director believes not even Hewitt has the data to prove his case. "I don't think we have the data on either side of it Hugh," said Collins. "I think right now, we're all trying to do the best we can."
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